The China Thread

None of the links you provided had anything to do with Pollution cutting and were just about Military Parades in 2015 and I gave you evidence that Pollution reduction targets was announced in previous FYP as early as 2006.

You gave no indication that you were aware of these FYP so it seems like the onus is on you for not paying attention to important developments especially as a factory owner or manager? that you claim to be.
Try reading it again until it sinks in. Good luck.
 
Very misleading post from LaNegra, unfortunately par for his course:



This whole false indignation is just because these Chinese laws stipulating death penalty for child rapists aren't new, but have been in place for years. There is a sleight of hand attempt at disinformation by LaNegra here to dismiss China's tough child protection laws just because they were already in place and not new.

Instead of just stating that these laws already were in place, LaNegra goes on his typical aggro word salad tirades in an attempt to obfuscate the basic fact that the death penalty in China for pedos already was in place, and was actually bolstered in 2023.

China executes pedo predators, and that's a good thing!

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Legal adoption in China is in fact "a thing", and allowed for married heterosexual couples over 30 with a stable income. It is adoption by foreigners with no blood relation to the child that has been banned in China.




The reason you will not elaborate is that unlike in most western countries, there are no satanic child rape/torture/sacrifice networks in China. Eyes Wide Shot, the Franklin School, the Dutroux case in Europe etc have no equivalent whatsoever in China. You don't rise to political power through the CCP by being compromised in a pedo scandal as is the case in the UK, France, Canada or the US where a number of presidents and high officials were pedos.

Child abduction in China do happen, but every indication points to the fact that these abductions are orders of magnitude lower than in the West. Sterzel's sidekick in the video posted above by LaNegra is blatantly lying when he states that the problem is "100,000 times worse in China".

Taking LaNegra's own highly biased anti-China sources of 30k-60k annual child disappearances in China, that rate is approximately nearly 100 times lower than in the US.



Yet you have professional propagandists like Sterzel and his sidekick sitting in southern California and NY thrashing China for a problem that is 100 times worse in their cities.

The only reason this type of comically preposterous propaganda thrives is because many people in the West just want to believe the worst about China and will accept the worst clichés to confirm their biases.
As for disappearances of children in western countries including USA we really need to look at the definition of dissapear. In the west a lot of children go run away from home for a few days or something and then come back but in the meantime they were reported missing to the police. I have personally seen instances like this. And as always never trust official figures coming out of China.
 
Try reading it again until it sinks in. Good luck.
nope. neither of those articles mention anything about it. I did find another article that mentioned a scheduled shut down for a parade in 2015.


Wow 7 days scheduled break. What a dictatorship nightmare. I remember when I was a kid in Virginia, my school was shut down for a week due to a blizzard with decision announcement just several hours each day before school starts. I'm so glad to be able to live through that tyranny and tell you about it.

Doesn't shock me that you weren't aware of their Five Year Plans even though you claimed to have lived there though. Especially given that you are not able to translate basic Chinese.
 
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Well Well Well. Would you look at that. Turns out it was Mossad!

I'm also not sure I would be rooting for this witch hunt from the pov of Americans. You guys don't have a great track record given you weren't able to successfully prosecute Gang Chen, Anming Hu, and Xiaoxing Xi and so forth.

Would be a shame if you scare off the rest of the Asian Diaspora into leaving and they're not gonna rely on you being able to tell the difference.




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This black guy makes a good point about those Israeli biolabs that they attempted to frame it to the Chinese on. Has Libs of Tiktok posted an update yet?

They could've been planning on a false flag to pin it on the Iran and Chinese to manufacture consent for war on top of shooting yourself in the foot in the talent war against China.

I noticed @LaAguilaNegra has been very quiet on this when I posted that update.

 
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If you don't worship Jesus Christ, then you worship Satan.

The Communists had begun their reign of terror in China by 1930 and proceeded to torture, starve and murder tens of millions of their own people during the next 50 years, as did all the other Godless, Satanic Communist governments of the 20th century: USSR, Cambodia, North Korea, etc.

While China's government, economy, financial system, etc., has adapted considerably and is not properly communist now, when did they stop being Godless and Satanic? Do they not persecute Christians? Do they not persecute unapproved religions that are peaceful and law abiding? I saw the persecution first hand in great detail when I lived there.

When did the Chinese government stop being murderers? Are we to believe their increase in wealth and capability to surveil and control their populace has liberated them from their bloody origins? I think that's the thesis in dispute. Do people become more or less virtuous when given wealth?

I think that they have improved to a significant extent in some areas of society and it's expected because stability is important, so I'm not saying that China now is like 1960 or even 2000. Many things are better, but why would I assume they're not at least as corrupt behind the scenes as other large governments? What's the rationale for believing that?

We are familiar with the horrendous sexual scandals in the West of the past 30 years or so because our societies had enough virtue to provide for their exposure. Does China's?

I would like to believe that Chinese elite are just murderers and persecutors of Christians and not pedos, and maybe that's the case, but so what? Oh, they're Satanic murderers, but not pedos. Well, bravo.
Kind reminder that being a Christian is prohibited in CCP ranks. The Party imposes strict rules and requirements on its 100+ million members, one of them is strict adherence to an atheistic worldview. The CCP periodically roots out religious practicioners, the last time this happened was in 2015 - not coincidentally shortly after Xi Jinping had taken over. Xi Jinping has since in several speeches stated that the CCP members must be unyielding Marxist atheists in character.

In internal documentation the Party calls Christians 'addicts' and 'reactionaries' who carry high potential for anti-state activities. The CCP is openly hostile to Christianity to the point where it a priori bans anyone associated with the religion from its base ergo Chinese state institutions. This CCP adversity and anti-Christ bias makes the wumao circus on Christ Is King even more remarkable and strange.



 
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Oh, please. China will say they "ban" something and then, like sneaky cowards, will try to steal whatever the Israelis and Americans come up with....and then claim it was theirs all along.

Even your Deepseek is a cheap China rip-off of the Israeli ChatGPT.
Deepseek is more advanced than the US AI products. But even if China can only steal our technology and reverse engineer it and then maintain it, that is far more than the soon to be non-White west will do in 20 or 30 years. Our new citizens from the third world will not be able to maintain a first world infrastructure.
 
We have posters here, trashing China, who have probably not been to the USA. They will trash this video as just highlighting the nice areas of China. Well, the USA has no areas to compare to this. Just run down slums, impoverished rural areas, and gated communities, with the disappearing middle class trying to find an escape.

 
Kind reminder that being a Christian is prohibited in CCP ranks. The Party imposes strict rules and requirements on its 100+ million members, one of them is strict adherence to an atheistic worldview. The CCP periodically roots out religious practicioners, the last time this happened was in 2015 - not coincidentally shortly after Xi Jinping had taken over. Xi Jinping has since in several speeches stated that the CCP members must be unyielding Marxist atheists in character.

In internal documentation the Party calls Christians 'addicts' and 'reactionaries' who carry high potential for anti-state activities. The CCP is openly hostile to Christianity to the point where it a priori bans anyone associated with the religion from its base ergo Chinese state institutions. This CCP adversity and anti-Christ bias makes the wumao circus on Christ Is King even more remarkable and strange.




The last Christian POTUS was Jimmy Carter, 46 years ago. Last Christian president of France was Charles de Gaulle, about 60 years ago. Not sure about the UK, but probably not in a very long time either, Thatcher had known pedo in her cabinet and PMs like Heath before her were satanist pedo predators, same in Canada. Since then, the typical leader in the West has been either an outright satanist/kabbalist like Macron, Clinton, Obama, Trump, Starmer, Blair etc or someone who serves them.

If you're a Christian, or uphold western Christian values like Massie or MTG, you will be persecuted and chased out of politics, and maybe your young wife might die from a cancer or a heart attack, or maybe you will have your head blown out in a Dallas presidential parade.

There are no pedophiles or satanists in the Chinese power structure.
 
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A lot of China is just façade and veneer.

In Nanjing, Jiangsu, there is a 368-meter-tall three-tower connected building. This skyscraper cost tens of billions and is an iconic landmark of the city.

On February 11, a blogger went inside the building to take a look.

As a result, he found the interior to be cold and deserted. Some floors only had two or three companies moved in, while others were still completely unfinished bare shells.

The blogger said the vacancy rate is quite high. Many skyscrapers look glamorous and impressive on the outside, but inside they are actually very plain and unadorned.

 
During my time in China, some Western things were becoming more common, like bicycling, as well as basic car & motorcycle enthusiast culture, which is to be expected with more disposable income.

Another new trend was dog and cat ownership. Some parks in Guangzhou had dog areas and the typical dog owner in 2010 that I saw was upper middle-class, born in the mid to late 1980's, and was really into their dogs.

Strangely, there were a lot of Husky owners in a tropical climate who lived in 70 sq. meter apartments, so they were a bit inexperienced, but I never saw any abuse in public.

However, there are some problems, as seen here.

 

This is propaganda. The author of the clip might be wrongly induced.
China has money. Tons of it. Cause they sell goods to the entire world. And steal west IP. Unless you go there to see it for yourself. When you deal with most Chinese they are ruthless. I’ve never met a normal Chinese. It’s always an act. Truth be told they were really poor.

The issue is they don’t have to be great to beat the west. Cause the west is suiciding itself. China doesn’t have to do anything. Just be average. US is falling apart. Europe same. By its own demise.
 
This is propaganda. The author of the clip might be wrongly induced.
How is that clip propaganda, are they faking the coin test on that train going at over 330kmh? Can you explain your position here?


China has money. Tons of it. Cause they sell goods to the entire world. And steal west IP. Unless you go there to see it for yourself. When you deal with most Chinese they are ruthless. I’ve never met a normal Chinese. It’s always an act. Truth be told they were really poor.

In China, German car brands like Audi or BMW are no longer seen as better than the domestic brands, they have been losing out. European car builders are way behind Chinese EVs, which are now superior to euro and Japan brands in performance, quality and value. BYD alone has 110,000 engineers in its R&D dept. They now produce more IP than in the West and are 5-10 years ahead in key tech like batteries and EVs.
 
This is propaganda. The author of the clip might be wrongly induced.
China has money. Tons of it. Cause they sell goods to the entire world. And steal west IP. Unless you go there to see it for yourself. When you deal with most Chinese they are ruthless. I’ve never met a normal Chinese. It’s always an act. Truth be told they were really poor.

The issue is they don’t have to be great to beat the west. Cause the west is suiciding itself. China doesn’t have to do anything. Just be average. US is falling apart. Europe same. By its own demise.
Exactly. Due to third world immigration, China will soon control the globe. And they have no use for the rest of us. We get these third worlders out of we will be at the mercy of those who have none.
 
In China, German car brands like Audi or BMW are no longer seen as better than the domestic brands, they have been losing out. European car builders are way behind Chinese EVs, which are now superior to euro and Japan brands in performance, quality and value. BYD alone has 110,000 engineers in its R&D dept. They now produce more IP than in the West and are 5-10 years ahead in key tech like batteries and EVs.
China had 50-200% tariffs on foreign cars when I lived there (early 2000's through mid 2010's) and reduced it during the late 2010's, which would obviously incentivize a preference for domestic, although I'm not saying this was the only reason. Obviously domestic Chinese cars did raise their luxury features to match imports as they continued to steal IP in order to improve their production.

110K engineers in R & D sounds as implausible as 300 million people visiting Xinjiang in one year. I gotta ask your source on this R & D thing.

EDIT: Asking Grok, this is what I found.

BYD total employees 950K, R&D 120K = 12.5%

Tesla total 135K, R&D 15K = 9%

I stand corrected. These figures surprise me because I did not think they would scale in a linear manner. I would have thought that 10x increase in workers would be 2x - 3x increase in R&D.

Seems very inefficient to me, but that's how it is. The disparity between Tesla and BYD in workers and R&D compared to market cap also implies significant inefficiency at BYD, but that obviously requires a complex analysis.
 
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How is that clip propaganda, are they faking the coin test on that train going at over 330kmh? Can you explain your position here?

Let me explain my position: Its a 20 sec clip.
In China, German car brands like Audi or BMW are no longer seen as better than the domestic brands, they have been losing out. European car builders are way behind Chinese EVs, which are now superior to euro and Japan brands in performance, quality and value. BYD alone has 110,000 engineers in its R&D dept. They now produce more IP than in the West and are 5-10 years ahead in key tech like batteries and EVs.
BULLSHIT.

chinese cars cannot be used in Europe without a lot of safety changes made to them. They are basically shit.

German cars are the still the best. In a 10 year ownership a Mercedes is cheaper than a lexus to own. Even with more repaird. Lexus is petrol not diesel. At least in Europe. Mercedes steel.

When I was in China AUDI were the most wanted by the elite.

I dont hate chinese. What I dislike is the fake image you and others want to make of chinese or china. I make deals with them and understand they are different. They are inferior. And ive never been scammed by them.
 
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