The China Thread

Do you think covid was a Chinese bioweapon?
I think the Covid scam originated above the level of national governments, but I didn't study it much two or three months into the plandemic when I realized most of it was fake.

In other words, I do not blame the CCP/Xi nor Trump & his admin for Covid, but I'm not the guy to ask.

That was one too many big events for me and I was too disgusted to be bothered with the details when so much of gen pop was eager to take the clot shot and go along with all the nonsense.

I decided to focus more on The Church once it re-opened.

Which countries' policies are more satanic?

Which countries have been more murderous over the last several decades?

Which country's govt is more evil? I think I've expressed my opinion on this over the past year, but that's all it is, a subjective opinion.

We know more about the problems with Western governments because they were more influenced by Christianity, and we therefore are allowed to expose their problems to a much greater extent than those of explicitly atheist governments, but they all have massive issues.

Freedom of the press is almost non-existent in China, whereas it's too free in the USA and does a lot of harm, while also exposing wrongdoing.

I can't answer about whether so-and-so is Christian as we'll all find out on judgment day, but an Orthodox priest whom I trust says few Orthos who do everything they're supposed to will make it because they don't really want Jesus more than the world; they're just going through the motions, church is their social club, etc. Maybe that tells you what I think about non-denom Boomers who think lady pastors speaking in tongues are Christian, although my opinion on this is worthless and affects nothing except my spiritual well-being.

You mentioned in another thread that usury is more destructive and worse than the killing of a child. Which countries promote usury?
This is an excellent topic. When I lived in China, lending was minimal compared to the USA at the consumer/retail level. At higher levels, the stock market and whatnot, there was more going on, but does it compare to Western exchanges in its scammery? Probably not there yet.

Credit cards were just becoming common when I was on the way out. How can we compare the figures? I think Western countries obviously promote usury more than commie ones.

Do you think China resists the overall monetization of the world? If yes, how so?

China does not persecute the Orthodox Church and its local parishes, largely made up of Russian expats. The reason they don't is that the Russians in China do not seek to undermine and regime change China, to the contrary.
In Vladivostok this is what I've heard, but not so around Shanghai according to a Chinaman at my church, but it's just one source. He says Orthos have to keep a low profile and are not allowed to have a church there, and that much is true.

However, I agree with you about Zionist infiltration through Protestant Christianity in China. I also saw that in my limited experience with them.
 
This is peak Coop, aka intentionally misrepresentating statements, situations and linked articles. The man just can't stop lying, probably feels as natural as breathing.

For clarity, situation as presented earlier by yours truly is 100 percent accurate. Several zones in Israel have been designated high risk by the Changs meaning that legal coverage is in dispute for the Chinese investment firms concerned. This is due to Israel's current diplomatic stand off with Iran, in the above mentioned zones Chinese investment projects are on hold. Ynet article confirms this one on one.

This rather mundane truth is apparantly enraging the CCP simps who still are moving heaven and earth to portray China as an enemy of Israel - obviously attempting to coast on anti Israel sentiment in LW tankie and RW chud audiences. It's cheap, it's fake, and it's laughable. Israel has been one of the countries most essential to China's rise due to its infiltration of US critical infrastructure and two-faced foreign policy. This Israel China cooperation is well documented and shows no signs of abating. Everything else is a dumb lie pushed by individuals with a questionable track record at best.

First you need to stop with the personal insults, tiresome and really only further reinforce your image as an immature hothead with serious self-control issues.

I proved that your were wrong about your assertion that China was not putting a damper on its Israeli investments, using an Israeli source, Ynet, as reported by RT. Maybe you should write to RT and send them one of your trademark multi-paragraph string of invectives telling them how they are uninformed lying simps...

Instead of acknowledging your error, you double down, ratchet up your insults and claim that those restrictions aren't a thing, that they only apply to "several zones in Israel", as if that in itself was not a restriction on Chinese investment, and a signal to their private firms on policy realignment.
 
I think the Covid scam originated above the level of national governments, but I didn't study it much two or three months into the plandemic when I realized most of it was fake.

In other words, I do not blame the CCP/Xi nor Trump & his admin for Covid, but I'm not the guy to ask.

That was one too many big events for me and I was too disgusted to be bothered with the details when so much of gen pop was eager to take the clot shot and go along with all the nonsense.

I decided to focus more on The Church once it re-opened.


Which country's govt is more evil? I think I've expressed my opinion on this over the past year, but that's all it is, a subjective opinion.

We know more about the problems with Western governments because they were more influenced by Christianity, and we therefore are allowed to expose their problems to a much greater extent than those of explicitly atheist governments, but they all have massive issues.

Freedom of the press is almost non-existent in China, whereas it's too free in the USA and does a lot of harm, while also exposing wrongdoing.

I can't answer about whether so-and-so is Christian as we'll all find out on judgment day, but an Orthodox priest whom I trust says few Orthos who do everything they're supposed to will make it because they don't really want Jesus more than the world; they're just going through the motions, church is their social club, etc. Maybe that tells you what I think about non-denom Boomers who think lady pastors speaking in tongues are Christian, although my opinion on this is worthless and affects nothing except my spiritual well-being.


This is an excellent topic. When I lived in China, lending was minimal compared to the USA at the consumer/retail level. At higher levels, the stock market and whatnot, there was more going on, but does it compare to Western exchanges in its scammery? Probably not there yet.

Credit cards were just becoming common when I was on the way out. How can we compare the figures? I think Western countries obviously promote usury more than commie ones.

Do you think China resists the overall monetization of the world? If yes, how so?


In Vladivostok this is what I've heard, but not so around Shanghai according to a Chinaman at my church, but it's just one source. He says Orthos have to keep a low profile and are not allowed to have a church there, and that much is true.

However, I agree with you about Zionist infiltration through Protestant Christianity in China. I also saw that in my limited experience with them.

Good discussion, will add to that later on this week.
 
Do you think covid was a Chinese bioweapon?

As to Zoom, shutting down all products and companies founded by Chinese dual citizens would precipitate a massive exodus of Chinese-American talent to China. If you're a China hater, that would be a very counterproductive move, similar to the EU scoring an own goal by harassing Russian expats.

Talent? Stolen tech isn't talent. The massive exodus of Chinese-American "talent" to China will probably be met with a great big "Good Riddance". Probably replaced with Japanese, Taiwanese, Koreans, etc. They may not have the quantity, but they're still preferable to to CCP's little slaves.

Kind of surprised you are so out of touch with events there.

Maybe unlike a full-time wumao like you, some people actually have a life to live?
 
Your buddy is going to be A OK, LaNegra! :)



Kind of surprised you are so out of touch with events there.

China has assisted Iran in dismantling the Mosad network in that country by scrambling their Starlink network and lighting up device locations for the Iranian authorities to pick them up one by one. I don't think the Israelis are very happy with that, or that the Chinese sending 2 musicians to Tel Aviv to play for Israeli officials is going to make up for that.

Lil Coop is the canary in the coalmine regarding foreign narrative pushing - down to the modus operandi described earlier. All these foreign intel operated accounts act in unison and deliberately push false narratives for destabilization, manufacturing and cultivating of foreign support bases, and ragebait purposes. Megatron, a Twitter account most likely tied to Russia's Storm-1516 agency is no different - intentionally stamping fake headlines on a Reuters article which doesn't hint at Megatron's fabricated and extrapolated conclusion. It's vile. There isn't a Chinese push to ditch Israeli tech and any event presented as such is per usual a embellished ploy to present something as minor as a newly awarded contracts as part of an imaginary something bigger.

Chinese-Israeli cooperation on cyber and tech issues is neck deep. Chinese smart city surveillance programs for a large part run on Israeli tech which was backdoored from the US in the first place. There are several hubs of the Israeli tech industry in China. These are the Changzhou China-Israel Innovation Park, the Israel Technology Culture Centre Shanghai, the Shanghai China-Israel Innovation Park and others. The former hosts close to 240 Israeli tech companies, and most focus on AI, EVs, robotics, smart tech, renewable energy, and by extension military tech and more. There are several fruitful and high profile partnerships between both countries top universities as well - Tel Aviv University and Tsinghua. There are very few limits to the China-Israel cooperation on tech and cybertechnologies.

Israeli tech is vital in developing China's smart cities' AI surveillance systems and this cooperation continues to this day. Anyone denying this obvious fact is either out of touch, high on their own BS artistry supply or simply unaware of the geopolitical realities. China and Israel are on good terms, and have been for a long time.


Highly interesting video on Chinese Smart Cities, many of the technologies used for these anomalies are Israeli.



Chang website on the Changzhou China-Israel tech hub. By the words of the Changs themselves, cooperation is increasing and deepening. Also notice that this article is from 2024, when Israel's genocide in Gaza was well underway - yet another global event which was used as a cover to relentlessly push lies on a non-existent Israel-China fallout or whatever. These people just won't stop bullshitting.

 
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This is so obviously the Jew World Order reverse psyoping because The Global Noticing has gained so much traction. Complete "Thoust doth protest too much" mask off moment. Only a clown or a jew plant would believe and/or try to push the narrative that Xi and Putin aren't controlled by jews.

Nice try Lil Commie Coop :ROFLMAO:

You know better than this as I've schooled you on this (((subject))) many times before, "and yet she persists."

From July 7th, 2025:

Anywhere there are banks and money there are jews controlling them. Are there banks in China?

Yes. The elite cabal of talmudic trillionaire jews are using China as their testing ground for a cashless surveillance state and bioweapon lockdown experimentation on a mass scale (Covid)... JQ Mission Accomplished.

The elite, richest men in the world, regardless of nationality and country of origin all know each other and work together to subjugate and control the masses.
 
Talent? Stolen tech isn't talent. The massive exodus of Chinese-American "talent" to China will probably be met with a great big "Good Riddance". Probably replaced with Japanese, Taiwanese, Koreans, etc. They may not have the quantity, but they're still preferable to to CCP's little slaves.

Maybe unlike a full-time wumao like you, some people actually have a life to live?

You're posting at 4am EST from an India-adjacent time zone, probably never been to Silicon Valley, and never have posted any original or interesting material reflecting a higher than room temperature IQ.
 
This is so obviously the Jew World Order reverse psyoping because The Global Noticing has gained so much traction. Complete "Thoust doth protest too much" mask off moment. Only a clown or a jew plant would believe and/or try to push the narrative that Xi and Putin aren't controlled by jews.

Nice try Lil Commie Coop :ROFLMAO:

You know better than this as I've schooled you on this (((subject))) many times before, "and yet she persists."

From July 7th, 2025:
PurpleUrkel said:
Anywhere there are banks and money there are jews controlling them. Are there banks in China?


Your irrefutable proof that Jews control China is that there are banks in China? lol.
 
@Cooper
@Eagle3
@LaAguilaNegra
@PurpleUrkel

As surprising as it may sound to You, there are other members of this forum who visit this thread to learn something about China, not to read through Your personal quarrels.

never have posted any original or interesting material reflecting a higher than room temperature IQ.
Maybe unlike a full-time wumao like you,
This rather mundane truth is apparantly enraging the CCP simps
Only a clown or a jew plant would believe and/or try to push the narrative that Xi and Putin aren't controlled by jews. Nice try Lil Commie Coop

If You can't have a normal conversation, without insulting each other, You won't have any - I'm locking You out of this thread for a day (to begin with). Use this time to cool down and rethink Your posting strategy.
 
An illegal Chinese biolab was discovered in Las Vegas, Nevada. This is a different biolab from the Chang run biolab that was discovered in Reedley, California in 2023. In the lab samples of ebola, malaria and other diseases were found. Several Chinese were taken into custody.





Well Well Well. Would you look at that. Turns out it was Mossad!

I'm also not sure I would be rooting for this witch hunt from the pov of Americans. You guys don't have a great track record given you weren't able to successfully prosecute Gang Chen, Anming Hu, and Xiaoxing Xi and so forth.

Would be a shame if you scare off the rest of the Asian Diaspora into leaving and they're not gonna rely on you being able to tell the difference.




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Shenzhen's air quality has always benefitted from being next to the ocean, but many Chinese cities still have some of the worst air pollution in the world despite increased use of EV's.

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It'll take awhile for the overall AQ to improve after aggressively using factories. Not to mention Beijing has some nasty sandstorms. BJ used to hit 500+ which is insane.

The turning point when AQ started to improve was 2013.
In 2013, you would get roughly 176 days of good AQ and then in 2023 - you got 286 good AQ?
 
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It'll take awhile for the overall AQ to improve after aggressively using factories. Not to mention Beijing has some nasty sandstorms. BJ used to hit 500+ which is insane.

The turning point when AQ started to improve was 2013.
In 2013, you would get roughly 176 days of good AQ and then in 2023 - you got 286 good AQ?
The first big news I heard about Xi shutting down factories in order to reduce air pollution around Beijing was in August 2015 in the lead-up to the CCP's big event in Sept. 3, 2015, where Xi wanted clear blue skies around Beijing, which he achieved in order to provide a pleasant atmosphere for his announcements (increase to 2 child policy) and important guests, such as Putin, Lukashenko & son, Kim, etc.

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I'm all for improved air quality, but it was achieved via arbitrary and authoritarian dictates when there were already strict rules in place for pollution outputs. Everyone was shut down for six weeks, and even the factories that were doing everything correctly were closed because a system so corrupt can't be trusted from above or below.

Xi could not allow any emissions producing factories in the entirety of the greater Beijing metro area to remain open for nearly two months in order to guarantee blue skies for his big day.

It's nice to have a govt that can get things done, but it sucks if your 100% rules-following, zero-emissions factory is put out of business because the other guy can't be trusted not to bribe his way out of a jam and create some PM 2.5 that embarrasses the great leader.

 
The first big news I heard about Xi shutting down factories in order to reduce air pollution around Beijing was in August 2015 in the lead-up to the CCP's big event in Sept. 3, 2015, where Xi wanted clear blue skies around Beijing, which he achieved in order to provide a pleasant atmosphere for his announcements (increase to 2 child policy) and important guests, such as Putin, Lukashenko & son, Kim, etc.

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I'm all for improved air quality, but it was achieved via arbitrary and authoritarian dictates when there were already strict rules in place for pollution outputs. Everyone was shut down for six weeks, and even the factories that were doing everything correctly were closed because a system so corrupt can't be trusted from above or below.

Xi could not allow any emissions producing factories in the entirety of the greater Beijing metro area to remain open for nearly two months in order to guarantee blue skies for his big day.

It's nice to have a govt that can get things done, but it sucks if your 100% rules-following, zero-emissions factory is put out of business because the other guy can't be trusted not to bribe his way out of a jam and create some PM 2.5 that embarrasses the great leader.




We live in countries where the deep state who runs the government deliberately pollutes the skies with toxic compounds to poison their populations, and here you are, criticizing a government halfway around the world that does its best to reduce their air pollution in a country that produces nearly one third of the entire global industrial output?

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We live in countries where the deep state who runs the government deliberately pollutes the skies with toxic compounds to poison their populations, and here you are, criticizing a government halfway around the world that does its best to reduce their air pollution in a country that produces nearly one third of the entire global industrial output?

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It's an interesting comparison. I think both critiques are valid.

Maybe I've mentioned this before, but there are no chemtrails in China, nor even the rare contrails.

There is a chemtrails thread.
 
Another example of something that's been happening with some regularity, the CCP putting pressure on dissidents outside the country by persecuting their relatives in China.

China’s Global Censorship Campaign​

Beijing targets the father of a Hong Kong dissident in the U.S.​

The Editorial Board
Feb. 11, 2026 5:28 pm ET

China’s Communist Party doesn’t settle for controlling its own people. It also seeks to silence, and punish, critics abroad. The latest example is Wednesday’s guilty verdict against the father of a prominent Hong Kong dissident-in-exile in the U.S.

Beijing’s target is Anna Kwok, age 29, the executive director of the Washington-based Hong Kong Democracy Council. In 2023 Hong Kong announced a bounty of HK$1 million (nearly $128,000) on Ms. Kwok. When that failed to silence her, authorities went after her family in Hong Kong.

Police arrested her 68-year-old father, Kwok Yin-sang, last spring after he sought to terminate a life and personal-injury insurance policy he had paid for decades. Authorities claimed that because Ms. Kwok was listed as the beneficiary, her father had attempted to handle the funds of an “absconder” in violation of the Safeguarding National Security Ordinance.

Mr. Kwok now faces up to seven years in prison, and during the trial authorities forbade him from talking to his daughter as a condition of bail. Police also arrested Ms. Kwok’s brother last year, though they released him and haven’t filed charges against him.

Mr. Kwok’s case is the first time Hong Kong has prosecuted a family member of an exiled dissident, but it won’t be the last. Ms. Kwok cites the Chinese Communist Party’s “longstanding tactic of weaponizing guilt against people. . . . They take your family hostage and make you feel like you’re the cause for other people’s pain and suffering. They use it to make you think you should stop what you’re doing.”

Ms. Kwok has been pushing for American lawmakers to pass legislation concerning three U.S.-based Hong Kong Economic and Trade Offices. The city uses them to promote business and trade, but Ms. Kwok says they’ve become a “gateway to make transnational repression possible on American soil.”

The U.S. had allowed these diplomatic outposts on the premise that Hong Kong enjoyed a high degree of autonomy from mainland China, but that’s no longer true. The Hong Kong courts are de facto subsidiaries of the Communist Party. The legislation would allow the Secretary of State to shut down these Hong Kong trade offices.

The guilty verdict for Ms. Kwok’s father comes days after Hong Kong sentenced 78-year-old publisher Jimmy Lai to 20 years in prison. The bogus case against Mr. Kwok is another reminder that even the most routine financial activities can be dangerous in Hong Kong if Beijing targets you.

 
Another example of something that's been happening with some regularity, the CCP putting pressure on dissidents outside the country by persecuting their relatives in China.

China’s Global Censorship Campaign​

Beijing targets the father of a Hong Kong dissident in the U.S.​

The Editorial Board
Feb. 11, 2026 5:28 pm ET




Yup. Anna was one of the organizers of the rioters during the 2016 HK Protests. Unfortunately, because the US are unable to take care of their Color Revolutionaries like they used with Chai Ling (Tiananmen Square). She had to ask her father for money to fund her overseas lifestyle in Washington DC which he attempted to withdraw from her Insurance and not his which is considered fraud.

However, he hasn't been sentenced yet - so we'll find out Late Feb but it could be considered a technical offense so he could face an order to do community service or 14 days in prison. Kinda jumping the gun a bit for a global newspaper but I guess WSJ wanted to connect this with Jimmy Lai since he has just been sentenced.


Speaking of which, Jimmy Lai has finally been officially been sentenced to 20 years for being a mastermind of the 2016 HK Riots that Anna was involved in.

Mr Fong here reviews some of the acts committed by the rioters in collaboration with US NED as well as media which shows more detail and commentary than the video from my original post about the HK Protests.
  • 2:20 - Jimmy Lai in a public press conference justifies his acts in sharing values with the US in the context of the cold war. He suggests to use nuclear weapons against China. In my old post - on the youtube video highlighting the HK Riots, in Taiwan News Outlet, he publicly begged for the CIA to give him more support.
  • 5:11 - 8:58 Mr Fong reviews Western newspaper white washing Jimmy Lai's acts
  • 9:00: He starts going over other acts of violence that the Rioters committed during the 2016 riots.
    • starting off with a 57 year old man being lit on fire
    • Trashes a Chinese newspaper outlet office
    • HK Lego Building (Legistrative) being trashed (Which Steve Bannon bragged about with Epstein)
    • Rioters trash a restaurant & bakery owned by a local chain
    • A Police Officer gets mobbed and beat up by the rioters
    • Barricading a street harassing HK Locals
  • 14:00 He compares the actual incidents with Media Narratives.
  • 18:30 Reflection on Jimmy's sentence. The Rioters that Jimmy Lai enabled really had the potential to destroy HK. Thankfully HKPF was on top of it and we recover from this mess.

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The first big news I heard about Xi shutting down factories in order to reduce air pollution around Beijing was in August 2015 in the lead-up to the CCP's big event in Sept. 3, 2015, where Xi wanted clear blue skies around Beijing, which he achieved in order to provide a pleasant atmosphere for his announcements (increase to 2 child policy) and important guests, such as Putin, Lukashenko & son, Kim, etc.

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I'm all for improved air quality, but it was achieved via arbitrary and authoritarian dictates when there were already strict rules in place for pollution outputs. Everyone was shut down for six weeks, and even the factories that were doing everything correctly were closed because a system so corrupt can't be trusted from above or below.

Xi could not allow any emissions producing factories in the entirety of the greater Beijing metro area to remain open for nearly two months in order to guarantee blue skies for his big day.

It's nice to have a govt that can get things done, but it sucks if your 100% rules-following, zero-emissions factory is put out of business because the other guy can't be trusted not to bribe his way out of a jam and create some PM 2.5 that embarrasses the great leader.



You say it's arbitrary but actually the PRC had pollution targets starting from their 11th Five Year Plan in 2006. These are announced publicly then lower level gov't starts making plans to figure out how to eliminate pollution. By your acknowledgement, Beijing started seeing better results in 2013. These are easy to look up through Google. You can even track their progress if you want to be anal about it.

I'm surprised that you claim after living quite some time (how many years did you say you lived in GZ?) in China don't even know about these Five Year Plans.

I know a few HFs that base their investment strategies on these FYP.


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