Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

Get2choppaaa said:
I am sorry but every patriot in every country should have pride in their nation for something.

It's a sign of a defeated group that folks have no national pride.

Look, at the end of the day America is the place everyone wants to live in, is the richest country in the history of the world, and even though it's not perfect ... There are many many many things to be proud of. The heritage American deserves every right to feel proud of their lineage.

Anyone who disagrees is frankly is jealous or irrelevant!
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What's going on with you brother? I mean that. It's ok to realize that your country is an exclave of a murderous regime who's killed or maimed countless of military men like you or the ones you've seen die or being crippled in front of you.

I'd suggest this film if you haven't seen it yet:

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American Sniper (2014) ⭐ 7.3 | Action, Biography, Drama

2h 13m | R
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God bless you
 
RedLagoon said:
What's going on with you brother? I mean that. It's ok to realize that your country is an exclave of a murderous regime who's killed or maimed countless of military men like you or the stuff you've seen.

I'd suggest this film if you haven't seen it yet:

m.imdb.com

American Sniper (2014) ⭐ 7.3 | Action, Biography, Drama

2h 13m | R
m.imdb.com m.imdb.com

God bless you
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I read Chris Kyle's book. Not sure if it's lost irony on your end or not but he was a huge advocate for the war and was absolutely proud of his units moniker as The Punisher.. So not sure what you're meaning here.

I've repeatedly said that I am not in favor of the empire wars, but I'm aware of why the happen.

I can recognize that war is terrible, that it should be avoided at all costs, that it's not likely the wars we fight are for the better... But still be proud of my service in having done something very very very very few would volunteer for.

We are really beating a dead horse here.

I'm not going to give an inch here and you non-Americans are not gonna convince me to change my views, and you're certainly not interested in changing your view point... Especially because it's easier to defect to how bad America is when your own country is persecuting you and you have less freedom there...so you can blame America for our empire to help the cope.

If me simply saying every one in their home country should have pride in their nation. If this is gone it's a sign of decline. If that statement is problematic then I don't know what to tell you folks.
 
Get2choppaaa said:
I read Chris Kyle's book. Not sure if it's lost irony on your end or not but he was a huge advocate for the war and was absolutely proud of his units moniker as The Punisher.. So not sure what you're meaning here.

I've repeatedly said that I am not in favor of the empire wars, but I'm aware of why the happen.

I can recognize that war is terrible, that it should be avoided at all costs, that it's not likely the wars we fight are for the better... But still be proud of my service in having done something very very very very few would volunteer for.

We are really beating a dead horse here.

I'm not going to give an inch here and you non-Americans are not gonna convince me to change my views, and you're certainly not interested in changing your view point... Especially because it's easier to defect to how bad America is when your own country is persecuting you and you have less freedom there...so you can blame America for our empire to help the cope.
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Well if you've served as NATO you wouldn't consider the ones who did under NATO non-americans now would you?

Maybe as an inside joke but you'd never consider them non-brothers right?
 
RedLagoon said:
Well if you've served as NATO you wouldn't consider the ones who did under NATO non-americans now would you?

Maybe as an inside joke but you'd never consider them non-brothers right?
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NATO is not America. They aren't Americans but they are jointly in the same conflict... So that would make them brothers in arms...sure.
 
RedLagoon said:
Thanks for sticking up for us.
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Id probably add... As a NATO member, you really don't give a shit about Ukraine's, neither do I (my mom's family left there 100 years ago and I've got nothing left to tie me back there)

It's certainly not worth escalation with Russia. But if youre a student of history you know that for the Germans and the Brits and the French... If can't be Russian.

The irony is that these countries (and Russia too) are being overrun by imported retarded labor from the ME and Africa.

Instead of working trade deals...

Personally I think we should dissolve NATO.
 
Get2choppaaa said:
Id probably add... As a NATO member, you really don't give a shit about Ukraine's, neither do I (my mom's family left there 100 years ago and I've got nothing left to tie me back there)

It's certainly not worth escalation with Russia. But if youre a student of history you know that for the Germans and the Brits and the French... If can't be Russian.

The irony is that these countries (and Russia too) are being overrun by imported retarded labor from the ME and Africa.

Instead of working trade deals...

Personally I think we should dissolve NATO.
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I'd agree with your last statement but for all the wrong reasons I think.

Still I see you as my brother.
 
RedLagoon said:
Trump is a good salesman, that's all.
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At this point I think its clear the Jews have something on Trump or have threatened his family or his fortune or something else. But at this point whatever the Jews say Trump goes along with it. John F. Kennedy was the only American president of the past 60 years who took on the Jews and he got assassinated for it. At this point it doesn't make too much difference who becomes president the Jews have firm control either way.
 
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In this post I discuss the Current Thing spectacle - this time, the Trump administration’s immigration deportations, how the media is framing it, and the CIA-initiated nationwide protests against them. I outline why the entire setup is astroturfed by intelligence agencies, why Trump has no structural power over the administrative state, and how the ritual drama is being used once again to manufacture public consent for increased surveillance and control.
https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/the-trick-get-the-public-to-beg-for
 
Australia Sucks said:
At this point I think its clear the Jews have something on Trump or have threatened his family or his fortune or something else. But at this point whatever the Jews say Trump goes along with it. John F. Kennedy was the only American president of the past 60 years who took on the Jews and he got assassinated for it. At this point it doesn't make too much difference who becomes president the Jews have firm control either way.
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The key to Trump are these things...

#1) Roy Cohn - who was this shady man, look into him and find out.
#2) Trump about to get destroyed by the courts in the 1970's for housing discrimination and all of a sudden Roy Cohn got him out of trouble for it.
#3) Allowed to make billions in NYC real estate. This is a process closed off to anyone who doesn't bend a knee.

This wasn't done without strings attached.
 
Australia Sucks said:
At this point I think its clear the Jews have something on Trump or have threatened his family or his fortune or something else. But at this point whatever the Jews say Trump goes along with it. John F. Kennedy was the only American president of the past 60 years who took on the Jews and he got assassinated for it. At this point it doesn't make too much difference who becomes president the Jews have firm control either way.
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I wonder why you are not willing to back Elon and the America Party then, when he is so clearly not a part if this?

 
Johnnyvee said:
I wonder why you are not willing to back Elon and the America Party then, when he is so clearly not a part if this?

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Because it's disingenuous rhetorical BS?

He already walked this back once. He's more than welcome to spill the beans and/or state his actual position. He can also renounce Trump if he wants to play the virtue game.

I understand it's illegal for Europeans to speak their mind, so they have to raise these rhetorical "Is multiculturalism working?" questions when they're feeling reckless, but normal people see this behavior as disingenuous, cowardly and ineffective.
 
Sandalwood Peak said:
Because it's disingenuous rhetorical BS?

He already walked this back once. He's more than welcome to spill the beans and/or state his actual position. He can also renounce Trump if he wants to play the virtue game.

I understand it's illegal for Europeans to speak their mind, so they have to raise these rhetorical "Is multiculturalism working?" questions when they're feeling reckless, but normal people see this behavior as disingenuous, cowardly and ineffective.
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He's probably made 100's of posts after that, about this subject. He apologized for involving Trump directly in this, which is fine, but this is more a general critique.
 
Get2choppaaa said:
Just gonna recirculate this again.

@Johnnyvee

I can't tell if you're completely out of touch, or just taking a piss.















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Trump and Elon are amoral Antichrist buddies of convenience who love to hate each other because they are birds of a feather who flock together. A man is known by the company he keeps and Trump and Musk love to keep each other company. One is pictured with Epstein, the other with Maxwell. They're both playboy billionaires. One admits to grabbing women by the p*ssy and marries 40% of his children off to jews, the other wears baphomet "costumes" and knocks jewish whores up out of wedlock. Elon helps Trump get "elected" even though the election was a ruse [the JQ simply wanted Trump back in (for whatever reason) and so that is why he "won" (i.e. he was installed)], Trump in turn gets Elon access to the government computers so Elon can install his own X-super malware which will somehow aid in his mission to Mars. Musk uncovers all this DOGE fraud, Trump does nothing about it as no arrests have been made, yet they both have taken victory laps on the subject. Case closed. And then in a lover's spat Musk gets angry at Trump and let's the truth slip that Trump is in the Epstein files (something that Elon didn't just "make up" and is so obviously the truth), and then they kiss and make up and now agree that there are no Epstein files and that Epstein killed himself. Case closed.

Are you following all of this?

"It's a big club and you ain't in it."
 
PurpleUrkel said:
Trump and Elon are amoral Antichrist buddies of convenience who love to hate each other because they are birds of a feather who flock together. A man is known by the company he keeps and Trump and Musk love to keep each other company. One is pictured with Epstein, the other with Maxwell. They're both playboy billionaires. One admits to grabbing women by the p*ssy and marries 40% of his children off to jews, the other wears baphomet "costumes" and knocks jewish whores up out of wedlock. Elon helps Trump get "elected" even though the election was a ruse [the JQ simply wanted Trump back in (for whatever reason) and so that is why he "won" (i.e. he was installed)], Trump in turn gets Elon access to the government computers so Elon can install his own X-super malware which will somehow aid in his mission to Mars. Musk uncovers all this DOGE fraud, Trump does nothing about it as no arrests have been made, yet they both have taken victory laps on the subject. Case closed. And then in a lover's spat Musk gets angry at Trump and let's the truth slip that Trump is in the Epstein files (something that Elon didn't just "make up" and is so obviously the truth), and then they kiss and make up and now agree that there are no Epstein files and that Epstein killed himself. Case closed.

Are you following all of this?

"It is a big club and you're not in it."
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Well given that we have not been given full transparency, all I can do is assume they are both in on it regarding Epstein.

If we are assuming Trump was doing it we have to assume Elon was as well.

Regardless, Trump not fulfilling his campaign promise on this is a major stab in the back to his supporters.

Im disappointed, but not shocked. And ultimately i'm not going to let it ruin my day, and I will be happy if we report the illegals and fix the economy and the rest of it I'll accept as evil men doing what they've done since before the Romans and Greeks as far as sex slaves ECT.
 
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